Someone offers to pay you straight to PayPal, Revolut, or your bank. No fees, no waiting, no platform in the middle. Tempting, obviously. π
Here's what actually happens, and why we ban it. π«
1. You have no evidence π¦
This is the big one.
When a supporter disputes a payment weeks later β and they do β the whole thing turns on one question: can you prove you delivered what you said you would?
On-platform: timestamped receipt, delivery log, the listing description as it stood at the point of sale, the conversation. It assembles itself while you get on with your day. π§Ύ
Off-platform: a DM saying "sent it!" and a screenshot.
Guess which one wins. π‘οΈ
2. PayPal reverses payments, and you'll lose πΈ
PayPal disputes are decided on evidence. No evidence, no case.
Worse, the two payment types both fail you:
Goods & Services β the buyer gets full protection, you get none, and a chargeback can arrive months later.
Friends & Family β no protection for either of you, and receiving business income this way typically breaches the terms of service. Get flagged and you're looking at a limited account with funds held for months. β οΈ
There's no third option that protects you.
3. Your bank will notice π¦
This is how creators lose bank accounts. π¨
Regular incoming payments from strangers, with no invoices, no records and no explanation, look exactly like something a bank is legally obliged to worry about. They don't ask first. They close the account, often without telling you why, and getting another one afterwards is genuinely difficult.
Documented platform income doesn't trigger it. Twelve random transfers a week absolutely does.
Same problem, larger, when you apply for a mortgage. See You're the Merchant πͺπ·. π‘
4. It's invisible to HMRC β until it isn't π
Tax authorities are actively pursuing creator income that never went through proper channels. Informal transfers, app payments, "gifts" β all of it.
Off-platform payments still count as income. You just don't have the records to prove what you earned, when, or from whom when someone asks.
And you will be asked eventually. π
5. Zero fraud screening π«
Every payment here is screened before it reaches you β stolen card checks, velocity limits, manual card verification on every supporter account, sanctions and AML screening.
Take it directly and none of that exists.
Stolen card money arrives, feels real, and vanishes weeks later when the real cardholder notices. You've delivered the content and lost the money. You did nothing wrong; you just had no protection. π³
6. The overpayment scam π£
The oldest one in the book, and it works every time.
"I've accidentally sent too much β can you send the difference back?"
The original payment was made with a stolen card or a reversible method. It gets pulled back. The refund you sent was real money, and it's gone.
This scam only works off-platform. It's why it's always attached to a request to move somewhere else. π©
7. You hand over your personal details π
PayPal shows your legal name. Bank transfers show your account details. Revolut shows your name and often your phone number.
Every off-platform payment is a small privacy leak to someone you've never met. On-platform, they see a display name and nothing else. π·
8. It makes every scammer's job easier π
Here's the bit creators don't think about.
If you've never taken an off-platform payment, a fake DM asking your fans to pay elsewhere is instantly obvious.Your audience knows you don't do that.
If you've done it even once, that same fake DM looks completely normal β and your supporters get robbed using your name.
Never doing it protects them as much as you. π‘οΈ
9. It's a serious platform breach β οΈ
Off-platform delivery and off-platform payment are suspension-level breaches of our rules.
Not because we're precious about our cut β because it bypasses content review, age verification, fraud screening and delivery records all at once. One creator doing it puts every creator's payments at risk, which is exactly how other platforms have gone dark overnight.
"But the feesβ¦" π·
Fair. Let's do the maths honestly.
Off-platform: you keep 100% until one chargeback. Then you're down the payment, the content, and possibly the account it landed in.
On-platform: you keep 100% of your listed price anyway β supporters cover the fees. Plus delivery records, fraud screening, dispute evidence, documented income, weekly payouts and bonuses on top.
You're not saving a fee. You're removing your own protection. π·
What to say when someone asks π¬
You don't have to be awkward about it:
"I only take payments through my Spenny Piggy β it's how I keep everything recorded and protected for both of us. Here's the link π"
Anyone genuine will be fine with it. Anyone who pushes back has told you exactly what they were planning. π©
Common questions π€
"What if they're a regular supporter I trust?"
The chargeback risk doesn't care how nice someone seems, and neither does your bank.
"What about a tip, not a purchase?"
Use Tips. Same protection, on-platform, and the money doesn't wait for Friday. π
"Someone's already paid me off-platform."
Refund it and ask them to go through your profile. Don't deliver anything off-platform.
"Can I take payments elsewhere for work unrelated to Spenny Piggy?"
Your other business is your own. What we're talking about is content and requests from supporters you met here.
"What if someone insists?"
They're either about to scam you or about to cost you. Politely decline. π«
TL;DR π―
No delivery record = no defence. Every dispute turns on evidence π¦
PayPal reverses payments β and F&F usually breaches their terms β οΈ
Banks close accounts over unexplained payments from strangers π¦
No fraud screening β stolen card money vanishes weeks later π³
It makes fake DMs believable and gets your fans scammed π
You keep 100% of your listed price on-platform anyway π·
You're not saving a fee. You're removing your own protection. π«π·
